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Post by hollyfromhell on Feb 23, 2004 21:00:02 GMT -5
We've seen sites that try to match up villains and try to tell us what they have in common...but do any of you think there are villains that could actually be in a relationship and how it would be?
I thought this up yesterday and thought maybe any of you had ideas.
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Post by Gracie on Mar 7, 2004 12:19:27 GMT -5
The thing is, relationship as far as dating and such? You've got very few possibilities that won't kill each other or "smite" them. I've always said they just need someone who understands them for a relationship to happen, but when it all boils down, the extreme parts of the personalities might clash. My favourite pairing---Hades and Maleficent. Only problem with that is Maleficent holds a grudge, in a very extreme way! Come on, she wasn't invited to a party for a baby and she swore to kill the baby 16 years later? You know Hades is just going to foul up sometime and sparks will fly. Or Hades with his temper will get mad and explode, and Maleficent won't tolerate it. I'd really love to see Gaston and Grimhilde together (wicked queen in Snow White) just to watch them fight over the magic mirror and "Who is fairest in the room" instead of the land. I also wouldn't like to be the mirror in that instance. Sure, though...post your ideas! That's what the board's all about!
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diartest
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Post by diartest on Mar 7, 2004 14:56:32 GMT -5
I'd really love to see Gaston and Grimhilde together (wicked queen in Snow White) just to watch them fight over the magic mirror and "Who is fairest in the room" instead of the land. I also wouldn't like to be the mirror in that instance. hehe that would be funny! ;D
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Post by hollyfromhell on Mar 8, 2004 19:43:25 GMT -5
i kind of thought this would be a hard topic... maybe that's why it hadn't been touched for awhile? I like your idea, Gracie. Grimhilde and Gaston would be perfect for each other because their both so wrapped up in themselves. The relationship scenarios you can come up with don't have to be harmonic ;D fights would make it more interesting! Hmmm...the reason I asked was because I myself was unable to come up with anything good at the time I was thinking maybe Frollo and Maleficent, my two favorites. I can just see those two walking under a black umbrella in the middle of a nice July day, abusing the waiters at fancy restaurants etc.... But then again, you're right about them clashing...put those two in a house and count down to WWIII cause they both got BAD tempers.
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Post by meeko on Mar 9, 2004 17:57:07 GMT -5
What about Gaston and Vanessa (Ursula)? They might make a nice looking couple. Perhaps Frollo and Lady Tremaine as well, or Clayton and Cruella.
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Post by mousehouse on Mar 12, 2004 2:41:58 GMT -5
I also think Gaston/Grimhilde and Frollo/Tremaine are great couples, as well as: Jafar/Maleficent, Hades/Ursula, Hook/Cruella, Percival/Medusa, Horned King/Queen of Hearts, and Clayton/Yzma. Maybe we can take a vote on that.
But, here's a little debate. I'm trying to see who are a greater couple: Hook and Grimhilde or Hook and Cruella *and* Gaston and Grimhilde or Gaston and Cruella. But, who do *you* think are better with each other: Captain Hook and Cruella De Vil and Gaston and Evil Queen *or* Captain Hook and Evil Queen and Gaston and Cruella De Vil?
Mousehouse
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Post by RuadhBanrigh on Mar 15, 2004 14:30:57 GMT -5
I agree that Jafar and Maleficent would be perfect for one another. For one thing, they both are magical. And, don't forget, they each have fowl minons. Also, both Maleficent and Jafar favor their black ensembles. Neither smiles unless they are feeling particularly evil. And their animators have drawn them tall and with straight lines. So, not only do they have their villany in common, but they would look good side by side (color coordinated and everything). I just can't see Maleficent with anyone else.
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Post by mousehouse on Mar 16, 2004 3:38:35 GMT -5
I posted a big thread in the "Disney Animation" section of the Toonzone Forum (the one hosted by vbulletin) website. There is a thread called: "Villians: Should they wed or be dead?", meaning which villian should be paired with what villian. Please, read it it is very interesting, it has many reasons why certain villians belong together, along with the Jafar/Maleficent info that RuadhBanrigh mentioned (sorry I did not put them exactly into my own words, Ruad, I will try to translate them). But, I hope that helps. The thread I posted was very insightful.
Mousehouse Edited by Jillian to correct the "Disney turned smiley.#nosmileys#nosmileys
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Post by hollyfromhell on Mar 20, 2004 20:53:18 GMT -5
I still think my idea of Frollo and Maleficent is good. Now Frollo and Tremaine....I honestly don't know how you could get that. Then again, I don't even like the movie Cinderella (would that be blasphemy here? *dodges lighting bolts*) I have a few more now. How about Madame Medusa and Percival McLeach? They've both got that white-trash look going for them and hey-same series. Then how about Clayton and Cruella De Vil? *hate the critters! love the money!* plus she might be drawn to him cause in her eyes he'd be "manly" i guess, heh. Jafar and Ursula? Hades and Yzma? (maybe that one would be a stretch)
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Post by mousehouse on Apr 5, 2004 22:05:46 GMT -5
Well, I do agree Frollo and Maleficent are evil, and they might have some things in common in which to maintain a relationship. But, I like Jafar and Maleficent more, however, your idea is not bad, either. As for Frollo and Lady Tremaine, even though they have more in common (i.e. similar shadowy figure, similar hair, they both abuse their adopted child, they both are uncaring). But, any pair will work. Maybe even Jafar and Lady Tremaine.
Now, as for Clayton and Cruella. They seem like a good pair. But, I'd rather go with Hook and Cruella or Hook and Evil Queen, or Gaston and Evil Queen and Gaston and Cruella. But, any pair may work.
But, how about this one: Scar in human form and Cruella De Vil? Oh, well.
Mousehouse
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Post by Sharkey on Jul 2, 2004 9:23:08 GMT -5
I very much like the Jafar/Maleficent pairing, and the Clayton/Cruella. But I am trying to fathom whether there would be any companion for Chernabog (the demon in Fantasia). Perhaps Maleficent again?
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Post by RuadhBanrigh on Jul 2, 2004 22:24:33 GMT -5
I like that pairing. ;D The very dark Chernabog with the very wicked Maleficent. That's just as perfect to me as the Maleficent/Jafar pairing...well, almost.
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Post by mousehouse on Jul 3, 2004 0:59:13 GMT -5
Chernabog and Maleficent had been paired up in "Disney's House of Villains." And, Jafar and Maleficent were seen together in "Kingdom Hearts" and on the "House of Mouse" episodes. Maleficent was also seen with Hades in "Halloween With Hades", but I do not know what happened in that episode.
Maleficent and Chernabog would be perfect, except that Maleficent is ordinary not as tall as Chernabog, and she has much more similarities with Jafar than Chernabog. But, they both have horns. However, I will not pair them up.
But, I've got the craziest idea: Chernabog and Madame Mim, I don't know why, but since Mim can turn into creatures, maybe she has just the same amount of power as Maleficent. Or, maybe Ursula with Chernabog. Or, maybe Maleficent was meant to have two lovers. But, if Chernabog works with no one, then he is best left a well-appreciated bachelor. Sorry, Chernabog. But, I don't know.
Mousehouse
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Post by hollyfromhell on Jul 5, 2004 16:22:27 GMT -5
hey, i stumbled on this fanart today. it has all the artist's favorite villains and minions drawn in pencil. its very good-much better than you would expect from a fanart. i posted it in this section, well-because Frollo and Maleficent are standing next to each other (he's seated on Snowball and she's with Diablo). it has several other villains too (Hades, Prince John, Kaa, Ursula, Queen of Hearts and Scar) in my haste, i didn't get the artist's name but here's the link to the picture: www.angelfire.com/bc/artwork/images/villains-sketch.jpg
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Post by RuadhBanrigh on Jul 23, 2004 15:12:05 GMT -5
For some reason, that just seems like an odd combo to me. I can't see Mad Mim with anyone like Chernabog. He is this "Great and Powerful" being, and she is this kooky, shape changing witch. Yes she has great powers, but I can't see Chernabog losing to Merlin. She needs someone more her type...I'll have to think about who that is though...I'm stumped
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